Episode 44
First Broadcast @ Edge Radio, Friday 28 July 2023
We chat with the brilliant minds behind the indie film ‘Just Humans’, a heartwarming story of a young man’s adventures and misadventures in his first year of university. ‘Just Humans’ is a proud product of Big Love Productions, an independent Tasmanian film company that showcases local talent, music, and locations. Our guests today are Eilidh Direen, the writer and director of the film, Daniel Brooks, the assistant director and production manager, and Edward Williams, the cinematographer and technical supervisor. Don’t miss this opportunity to hear from these amazing filmmakers and learn more about their creative process and vision. ‘Just Humans’ will be screening at three different venues in Tasmania:
Taroona Community Hall on Saturday 19 August at 7pm https://www.trybooking.com/CJJIL
Taroona Community Hall on Sunday 20 August at 7pm https://www.trybooking.com/CJJI
Don Bosco Creative Arts Centre in Glenorchy GYC campus on Monday 21 August at 7pm https://www.trybooking.com/CJJUK
Book your tickets now and get ready to laugh, cry, and relate to ‘Just Humans’, a film that celebrates the joys and challenges of being young and alive.
Transcript
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CRAIG NORRIS
Alright. Hi. And you're listening now to media mothership here on Edge Radio, 99.3 FM as always, this is your host Doctor Craig. And we explore everything in and around the world of mere and popular culture. You can listen to us live via your FM system on 99.3 FM or on demand at at radio.org dot AU. And we also are streaming via YouTube and Twitch. You can find us by just searching media mothership. If you want to reach out and touch us in a. Literate way, a text based way you. Can SMS us on 0488811707. And our monkeys will be listening and watching that SNS feed to take your comments. You can also leave a chat message on YouTube or Twitch. Well, that out of the way. It's a real pleasure to say that on today's show, we have special guests in to discuss their fantastic indie film project We've. Want to ailee ailee it's a. Pleasure to to have you in. What's your role in this film project on? It's just humans, right that we're talking.
EILIDH DIREEN
About yes, it's called just humans and I'm the writer and director of this movie.
CRAIG NORRIS
So Eileen, the writer and director and. Then we have Daniel Daniel, what's your role responsibility? Your crimes that you've committed?
DANIEL BROOKS
So I was the assistant director as well as the production manager.
CRAIG NORRIS
My sisters remember. Right production manager, yes. So that will that will involve like scheduling Google Calendar.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yes, and sort of. Make sure data is kept properly and running around sets and like moving people around and organisation. Creative intuition. Perfect.
CRAIG NORRIS
So we've got the director, writer, Ailey, the manager, production manager, production manager, Daniel. And now joined the third Member of this. Triptych. This Musketeer Ridge, the. What? What else comes in?
EILIDH DIREEN
Threes, trio, trios, tripod.
CRAIG NORRIS
Tripod. Yes, this tripod of people, Edward and what was.
Speaker
Right.
CRAIG NORRIS
Your role on just humans.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I am the cinematographer and the technical supervisor. Please be kind, the images are the best.
CRAIG NORRIS
I could produce well. Fortunately this is radio. So what we're. What we're going to play.
EILIDH DIREEN
They were very beautiful.
CRAIG NORRIS
Thank you. What we're going to play for you now is the trailer. The 39 second trailer to get people in. The mood do you reckon? I mean, I could ask you to explain to people what we're watching while we're live.
EILIDH DIREEN
Thing to it. Yeah. Well, you're gonna hear a conversation. Brief conversation between the main character and his mum.
Speaker
OK. Yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Right, alright, so this is a brief conversation between the main character whose name. Andy and his mum and this is the trailer for just humans, which is hasn't it hasn't had its premiere yet, right. The premier is coming so.
DANIEL BROOKS
That would be on the the 19th. Yes, 19th of.
CRAIG NORRIS
We'll talk about Premier.
EILIDH DIREEN
I'll just.
CRAIG NORRIS
August month, August. And if you keep. Listening we'll we'll give details if we can watch it. By the moment. That's just humans movie trailer, and this has been freshly minted, right? This only came out. A month ago.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah, a month ago.
DANIEL BROOKS
About a month. Yeah, actually might be over a month now, probably more like month and 1/2.
CRAIG NORRIS
Excellent. All right. So let's pump up those views with the just humans movie trailer.
Speaker
So how was your last day?
Speaker 6
I'm just so glad I never. Have to talk to. Any of those people ever again.
DANIEL BROOKS
That's pretty bad.
Speaker
Good luck at your bad attitude.
Speaker 6
I will have a good time. You know, people go. There because they actually want to learn and they want to have a fun time while they're doing this.
Speaker
To the shadow.
Speaker 6
I'm going to get a new group of friends and, you know, get fit and try new things. This is going to be my hot go someone.
Speaker
That way. To the side. Great music.
EILIDH DIREEN
Thank you. Can I? Can I go on a tangent? Really quickly and tell you the.
CRAIG NORRIS
Tangent. Oh.
EILIDH DIREEN
Story about the music.
CRAIG NORRIS
Eight I. Yes, please.
EILIDH DIREEN
It's it's really wholesome. So that song that plays during the trailer is called Shadows by our sound Editor and Co musician Simon Kelly. And the reason it came into being. Was there's a scene during just humans where some characters have a yard party and one of the main characters is singing a bunch of songs, presumably of her own composition, and I didn't write anything for this scene and it got to the day before filming and I realised ohh, I've gotta make some music for Emma the actress to sing. So I put together. I got out my ukulele and I wrote a bunch of different 10 second song snippets. Which were all trash, like they were not meant to be good. I sent those videos off to Emma and said, can you just sing these tomorrow in the in the film and I'll. I'll play along on my ukulele, and that's all that it was ever gonna be. And one of one of those song snippets was just this one line that goes. I stare into the shadows. What are they saying to me? And Simon later on, I think post filming suggested. It would be really funny if he turned that into a full length, properly produced song, and then we played that somewhere else in the movie over like a scene of characters at the pub or something to imply that in the in the world of the movie, this song really exists and Emma or Angel rather is the name of her character during the yard party scene is doing a cover. Of that song. So the man took this 10 second, like video of me playing my ukulele. And he turned it into a full song, and it sounded so cool. And we played it over the trailer.
CRAIG NORRIS
Excellent. Are you going to transmedia utilise this and have a CD?
EILIDH DIREEN
Using one day, we'd love to have a vinyl album.
CRAIG NORRIS
Because we are a radio station that. Plays music indeed.
DANIEL BROOKS
So this is a.
CRAIG NORRIS
Rare moment that actually played music in. My show. Hang on, Edward. Yes.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Craig, are you are you saying? That you can play music. It's weird on the.
CRAIG NORRIS
Radio cause I don't on this show that allegedly, yes, the show is doing.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I never thought.
CRAIG NORRIS
It's not gonna. It's not gonna go popular. I think. I think the future of radio really is just talking a lot inconsistently. But this music thing might. Turn from a fad into a mainstream phenomenon.
DANIEL BROOKS
It might potentially, yeah.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I think didn't Elvis Presley. Wasn't he a musician?
DANIEL BROOKS
Use that.
CRAIG NORRIS
As opposed to the actor.
EILIDH DIREEN
Are you thinking of Elvis Costello?
Speaker
Ohh no yeah.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
That's right. No, I thought. I was thinking of the inventor of music, sorry.
CRAIG NORRIS
Well, politics already, SMS now zero. 4888.
Speaker
477.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah, great. Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? As you bring creatives together on a project? And this is just like an indie project. That drew together a lot of like minded creative souls and. The generosity that came through from that right, I mean the story of the music.
EILIDH DIREEN
Absolutely half our cast just acted for free. Like I tried to pay them and they. Said no, thank you.
CRAIG NORRIS
Ohh yeah, Full disclosure so I'm in.
DANIEL BROOKS
This. Yeah. Wow. This is in the.
EILIDH DIREEN
Doctor Craig yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Movie. So you know, all of my audience, I encourage you to enjoy this, this film.
EILIDH DIREEN
Come see the movie. Come see doctor.
CRAIG NORRIS
Craig, so I, yes, I I I was, I was talking roll sorry. I'm I'm it's as. If I've not realised this answer right.
EILIDH DIREEN
And you did a great.
DANIEL BROOKS
Now you absolutely did a great.
EILIDH DIREEN
Job, we laugh every time you watch your sessions.
CRAIG NORRIS
Job. Yeah. Would you like to interview? Eat then about my. Life because I think that.
DANIEL BROOKS
Like that? That might be a good.
Speaker
Idea might.
CRAIG NORRIS
My ego knows no bounds.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
So, Craig, when you first received your your scene, what what did you think? Of your character.
CRAIG NORRIS
It's a great question. Thank you so much for asking. I've waited for this question for a long time. Well, this is also gonna be my awards acceptance speech. Yeah. When it's so, it will send. A little rehearsed. Because yes, I have to thank, you know, watching behind this in commentary to various movies like the. The reason I absolutely.
DANIEL BROOKS
Have a fixation.
CRAIG NORRIS
I think, yeah, yeah, let's not use this as therapy about me, so.
DANIEL BROOKS
On at the moment.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah. No, it did bring a lot of. Lynn, who create had great creative Brent Benson, the the music sounds like a real part of. It would be difficult to get music. For a indie project I know you guys have done. A number of yeah, pieces of work. So I guess if we if we. Look a little at this music tangent while we're here. So the music for just humans we heard. In the trailer, yes. And generally, Daniel, you were we had a drink last night. You were. Explaining to me how. Music works when you're wanting to set up an indie film, a film in general is. Is like. You can buy it.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yeah. So if you're interacting with a musician and you just want to Commission a whole bunch of music for the film, you can do that obviously, and then you'd listen in that circumstance, you you, as the Commissioner, would own the music.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah. So you commissioned it. You've given them like almost like a seller, no, sorry, kind of you paid like a.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yes, it's like it's commissioned for you. So you can have it essentially, yeah. And just just depending on like what your agreement is with them.
CRAIG NORRIS
100 bucks and I see, yeah.
DANIEL BROOKS
Like there's no royalties, royalties, and usages that they can get out of it too. And it's too straight. But if you're wanting to get something that they've already produced themselves, that's that's. That's getting the rights to use it licences, yes.
CRAIG NORRIS
Right. Yeah, right. So licencing, right, so that would. Be like if you wanted to do David. Bowies life on Mars.
DANIEL BROOKS
And you wanted to pay $2,000,000.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
That would be if.
CRAIG NORRIS
$1,000,000 limited budget.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
If you're dealing with musicians that. Established musicians with a big record label behind them. You're looking at minimum quarter of a million.
CRAIG NORRIS
Quarter of a million.
Speaker
For like one song for one song. Yeah, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Quarter million and that's pocket change, that's like.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yeah. And we know this cause we have. Looked into it, it's.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah. What was the? Can I ask you some detail? What? Was the song you wanted?
DANIEL BROOKS
I don't remember which song.
CRAIG NORRIS
To get and you hit that money. It was.
DANIEL BROOKS
I don't think.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
It was a. Specific song? I thought it was just, I thought.
Speaker
Right.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
It was just, yeah.
DANIEL BROOKS
We were, we were sort of playing around with it and we were just curious and I don't remember what song we used as an example, but it was something like 1/4 of a. $1,000,000 quarter of a.
CRAIG NORRIS
Million and again you know. So my mind boggles when I start trying to translate the money that films cost into, you know. Like like this weekend. For instance, in Kingston this is a bit of. A plug but. It's a community related plug so we get. Away with it. They've got the model train. Expert yes, right. That's a hobby and involves money. And it can get expensive. But that pales into comparison with the yeah.
DANIEL BROOKS
Trying to set up a film.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah. Ohh I mean. The the the amount of money to get equipment. I mean. That that's already looking at six grand up. I mean you.
DANIEL BROOKS
For your basic essentials.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
For your basic essentials, you. Cause you've you've also got. To remember, you've got to edit this on a computer, yes. So there's there's. Costs associated with that as. Well and.
CRAIG NORRIS
Like a lot of hidden costs then, right, you, you got your Adobe or whatever, but you might be using that for other things.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah, a lot. A lot of hidden costs.
CRAIG NORRIS
But yeah, that's. Not cheap. No or final cut.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Or and and look. We've we've got some fantastic phones with great cameras on them now. And you've got some great little microphones and and you can probably you can probably use your phone and grab a few cheap microphones, cheap lapels, you know, few 100 bucks, make a really great movie. But the the issue there is that the limitations are so. You could. There is basically no. No, sorry. No, no, no. What's the word I'm looking for? No flexibility with what you're able to do with it, so you're able to produce really high quality movies with that equipment, yes, but it's all going to be. Dialogue. Someone talking? Yes, opposite someone else talking you.
Speaker
You've got to stop.
CRAIG NORRIS
Gotta still work within the restrictions of that platform. If it's a mobile phone, it has some advantages, gives you that kind of. Gorilla did you? Do any mobile phone work in this?
EDWARD WILLIAMS
No, we did not. Ohh sorry. We were shooting. No, no, no. Gorilla shooting. No.
EILIDH DIREEN
Oh, no, no, no. We we had phone. Yeah, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah, yeah, yeah, fairly habits. What's it? What is gorilla?
Speaker
No, we we we're phone.
CRAIG NORRIS
Gorilla footage is when you're sneaking around and filming.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I wouldn't know what you're talking about, Craig. Yeah. Wait.
Speaker
Is that gorilla?
CRAIG NORRIS
You guys are all above board. We're not going to at all. So do you think? But yeah, so OK so.
DANIEL BROOKS
In terms of in terms of phone?
CRAIG NORRIS
Mobile phones you can do.
DANIEL BROOKS
Footage. Yes, there is a a number of scenes in the film that was shot through a mobile phone.
CRAIG NORRIS
Any mobile phones? Yes. You're you're kind of Nokia.
DANIEL BROOKS
I wish no one would live.
EILIDH DIREEN
English that would have been really funny. Can I give some context into why yes, so the structure of just humans is it's it's like. A collection of stand alone scenes from life in Tasmania, kind of loosely tied together by a plot, and the plot is just about this guy who goes to union. It's. About his experience. In uni and so most of the scenes are about him interacting with specific people who sort of recur throughout the movie. But I thought when I was writing the screenplay that it could be fun to include some scenes, which I called intermissions, and they were meant to represent like, like almost documentary style. Captured live moments of this same characters exploits in.
Speaker
Right.
EILIDH DIREEN
But and I thought and I I scripted them so that they're not actually documentary, but I they were meant to look like. Ohh, here's a break from the plot, and here's just a scene that might have happened at some point of this guy bumping into one of his mum's friends in the cat and. Fiddle or something? And I was like, if we if we shot those on a phone. And had it like slightly lesser video or audio quality and made it look like we kind of scrounged up all this like random ghetto footage off the Internet and put that into our movie. I just thought that might be fun.
CRAIG NORRIS
And has it translated to?
EILIDH DIREEN
Ohh yeah, the.
DANIEL BROOKS
Ohh yes they are. They are quite good.
EILIDH DIREEN
You mentioned for like some of the. Best parts of the.
CRAIG NORRIS
Movie. So you were saying? OK, so just humans description I've got is that it's a slice of life comedy film about a young man's first year of university made by independent Tasmanian film company Big Love Productions. Written and directed by Ailey. Just humans features local actors, locally produced music, and some of Tasmania's most iconic sights, sounds and smells. So the first question is big love productions. They're big players. Huge. How did you get those guys involved?
DANIEL BROOKS
Oh yes.
EILIDH DIREEN
Well, well, I'm best friends with one of them. And I I called up a favour.
DANIEL BROOKS
She just. Knew us.
CRAIG NORRIS
Big love productions. Why? Is it called big? Love Productions because it's you guys.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yes. Yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Right. Daniel. Edward.
EILIDH DIREEN
And well, it's it's you guys. But in in the spirit, it's me too.
Speaker
Right, yeah.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah, yeah. We can't tell you exactly why without spoiling. One of the funniest scenes in the.
Speaker
Movie. Really.
CRAIG NORRIS
Big Love Productions has, like the name is has a.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah, yeah. Sandal. Yes.
CRAIG NORRIS
Spoil the one that's great. Wow, that's fantastic. So big Love Productions came together for this film specifically.
DANIEL BROOKS
Retroactively, it was together for our previous work I guess, but it. Was only name. In the last couple. Of months.
Speaker
Right.
CRAIG NORRIS
It's why did you come to the decision that you needed to name up our production entity lecture?
DANIEL BROOKS
For for future endeavours. Ohh wow.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah, we and. We won't spoil that. Will we spoil that? We won't spoil that.
DANIEL BROOKS
We're not spoiling, I don't think at the time.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I don't think we've.
EILIDH DIREEN
Got there'll be more cool movies in.
CRAIG NORRIS
There'll be more and they'll.
EILIDH DIREEN
There. Yeah, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Be more interviews, yeah. To talk about.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Them we don't. We don't wanna be here talking about just humans and then spend about.
Speaker 1
Fair enough.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Most of your show talking. About Daniel and I stuff.
CRAIG NORRIS
Big love productions. Alright. So yes, as I was saying, so the the films a slice of life toast for you, Ellie. How did you come up with the idea for this script for just humans first year? Any students story and what what some of the themes and messages you're trying to get through from it?
EILIDH DIREEN
I had been away from Tasmania for a couple of years doing some volunteer work and I came back in 2021 and I thought I'd have a house party to get all my friends together and celebrate being back and for a number of reasons it was. I felt quite an awkward house party. And I was calling. My friend Anna Terese. I'm naming her because she's a musician and she's.
CRAIG NORRIS
Very cool. Do we maybe? Do we play her music here?
EILIDH DIREEN
We should. We should. That's that's for another time. But I was calling Anna to debrief, and I was talking about. I was dissecting this whole party, and I'm one of Anna's hobbies is just social.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah, we'll get in touch.
EILIDH DIREEN
Dynamics and psychology and stuff like that. And she just had a good chuckle and she said someone should make an indie film about awkward Tasmanian social interactions. And I said Ohh you might you might be. Onto something there. And I sat with that for a day or two and suddenly I had all these flashbacks to my uni years and and things that really happened to me and to Daniel and to Teddy. And we we tell each other, we tell each other these stories that they became myths almost again and again and again.
CRAIG NORRIS
Real stories.
EILIDH DIREEN
And they just all came flooding back to me and I thought you could. You could really make a movie out of this. So I just wrote them all down and then I turned that into a screenplay, and I suppose the themes in it. Well, the main theme is it. It's basically about a journey that I think a lot of us go on, which is when as you're growing into an adult and you're going out into the world and interacting with lots and lots of different people, many of whom are eccentric or in in your perspective, at least eccentric or obnoxious. Different or whatever, there's an initial discomfort with other people and even like contempt towards other people, or like, you feel tempted to look down on other people, but then eventually, hopefully, as you mature, you get to this point where you realise that humans are just human. And that that is a quote from the 1996 cult hit classic anime Garza's Wing, which are we're big, big, big, big fans of.
CRAIG NORRIS
All right. Guys, he's wing. Yeah, and it's it's. So it's an.
DANIEL BROOKS
Animated it's a three episode OVA from 96.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah, it's an enemy. Yeah. Gone. Yeah, I feel like.
EILIDH DIREEN
You should watch it.
DANIEL BROOKS
You you must have watched the the dub though Craig, because that's the reason.
Speaker
I wanted to hate it.
EILIDH DIREEN
Ohh yeah, yeah. Watch, watch the.
DANIEL BROOKS
It's ohh.
CRAIG NORRIS
Dub it's humans, after all, are just humans. Yeah. Who says that? Is that a human? That says that.
DANIEL BROOKS
That's a that's a yes. There is a human.
Speaker
Yes. Yeah.
EILIDH DIREEN
It's a philosopher who shouts all his. Dialogue very loudly. Wow.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yes, you you have to watch the.
CRAIG NORRIS
Dub. Yes, alright and it's. Gaza's yeah wing Ghazi, who's ghazi?
DANIEL BROOKS
Knows who knows?
EILIDH DIREEN
Who we. No one ohh. Finds out who? Ghazi.
Speaker
It what a?
DANIEL BROOKS
Great. It was actually directed Craig by Yoshiyuki Tomino.
CRAIG NORRIS
What else has he done?
DANIEL BROOKS
Was the creator of. Gundam no.
CRAIG NORRIS
Way that's huge.
EILIDH DIREEN
And it was meant to be like a 26 episode series, but it for one reason or another, it got condensed into three episodes. So it is manic.
Speaker
Wow, it's.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah, and that's the inspiration of just humans.
EILIDH DIREEN
Kind of like I took that line from just humans and I made that the moral of the story.
CRAIG NORRIS
Or it's a it's it's a lot, yeah. Well, I think you should take it to Japan.
Speaker
I mean I.
CRAIG NORRIS
You know, it's such a clear link here. Think about. Yeah, one of the Tokyo Film Festival. This is Japanese Film Festival happening now. Yeah, right. Yeah. In in Hobart. Yeah. On demand. Yeah, we can get this in there. Tangent.
EILIDH DIREEN
Don't always love nothing more. Yeah. Yeah, it's a Japanese film, basically.
CRAIG NORRIS
We'll see. Sorry I am. Getting off on attention please.
EILIDH DIREEN
No, that's pretty much everything. I was going to say.
CRAIG NORRIS
Now first you need students I. Knew the birth of. You as first as a lecturer. Again, another Full disclosure, full word disclosure now lecturer. Due in first year.
EILIDH DIREEN
So did.
CRAIG NORRIS
I do remember one of the stunts I'm gonna. Call it stunts. Prepared for this, were you that I heard that you or that you confessed to me that you pulled was you created a Pokemon game based on the lecturers? Yes. Ohh.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yes, of course. Which features in the movie, although you.
DANIEL BROOKS
Wouldn't really know that it would sound right.
CRAIG NORRIS
It's just an Easter egg, yeah.
EILIDH DIREEN
I think we made that in 3rd year UNI but we we created this game called Watashi No Sensei which sort of more or less is Google Translate Japanese for my teacher and it was like a trading card game based on real or fictional figures that we found inspiring.
DANIEL BROOKS
It was about 30 million.
EILIDH DIREEN
And ironically referred to as senseis, some of these sensei. That include the fat controller from Thomas the Tank Engine pingu's dad.
CRAIG NORRIS
Ohh wow yeah. Dad, the wiggles.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah. And then we made like an extension specifically around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, specifically around UTAS lecturers and tutors. And you were a card in it.
CRAIG NORRIS
Like GLC, like a some kind of right. Totally. Yeah, I hope I was one of those ones which, who is it? Paul Logan. Or someone have to? Spend millions of. Dollars to get. Now who has it?
EILIDH DIREEN
Ohh yeah, you were an ultimate ranked sensor.
Speaker
Got the.
EILIDH DIREEN
You had the highest SP. As P stands for Sensei point.
CRAIG NORRIS
I really, yeah. I mean, so talented here that that really should get made and kicked out. I'm going to announce it right here on air. We're setting up a Kickstarter.
DANIEL BROOKS
I I agree.
EILIDH DIREEN
I'd. I'd actually unironically love to.
DANIEL BROOKS
I would do. It would be so lovely.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
There's going to be a lot of legal issues there. We've got.
EILIDH DIREEN
Not if we make parody version.
CRAIG NORRIS
Ohh yeah, yeah, we'll get consent. No approval.
EILIDH DIREEN
And one day when? We're like bajillion is and can afford to make our own equivalent of like the Lego Movie, which has, you know, since they will be our movie.
CRAIG NORRIS
I reckon that's going to be something like what is it? The Jerry Seinfeld. Every episode will have a Superman statue somewhere in shots during an episode. Yeah, you, you. I are you starting to? Settle second Easter egg that you're feeling needs to be in material creating like something that's a good luck charm.
DANIEL BROOKS
Sort of, but not. In things we've already done.
CRAIG NORRIS
Is it? Books that you're wearing when you're doing. A shoot or? No any good.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Luck. No see, I think. We well, I I personally am fairly tired of having everything part of the same universe and ohh this is connected to that and that's connected to this and and this theory puts this person in with this universe and you know how in 1990 this character was here. And and they were cast in that movie over there in two that, you know, even just saying it it's hectic. And I think that for me personally, each piece is its own peace and it deserves. Its own spot.
CRAIG NORRIS
But you're not gonna stop the fanboys? No. Reading into your.
EILIDH DIREEN
No, they can have their.
Speaker
Deck and and. Yeah, yeah.
DANIEL BROOKS
Granted, we have discussed possibilities of people who were in just humans cameoing in future projects as similar, if not the same person, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Are there any returning people between projects? So far, I mean just humans is the first. Piece that's out there that.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yes, but not the first piece chronologically.
CRAIG NORRIS
You guys have worked with, right? I'm not.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I I think a good way of saying this is. We we try to make friends wherever we.
DANIEL BROOKS
Go. Yeah.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
And unfortunately that means that we go oh, oh, I I really wanna work with this person again. I really wanna work with that person again, so we end up creating this huge list of people that we just want to get back in to work with and then on our next project. We're inevitably going to meet up with more people that we go ohh, we have to work with that person again so.
Speaker
Yes, please.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
You know, there's that well, hopefully, hopefully you.
CRAIG NORRIS
You've been feeling this very location where doing our radio showing right now has a bit of media magic too. This has been the filming location for one of ABC TV's most highest rated comedies.
Speaker 6
Ohh is that?
CRAIG NORRIS
So yeah, I feel the name of it. It's the ones that you know, Hastings, the one sit down in Hastings Rose Haven season one, I think had a community radio station feature in like.
DANIEL BROOKS
Not no memorable highest rated.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Sorry, is that?
CRAIG NORRIS
Two or so episode. They filmed it here at Edge Radio community station, where we're sitting right now. So. So you guys should also do that?
EDWARD WILLIAMS
How? How do they? Get the cameras.
CRAIG NORRIS
It's a really interesting question. Have a look at some shots I'm planning on seeing if I can get the rights to it, but anyway, I'll. I'll, I'll it's. Because they actually shot it like at eye level for about where, yeah.
DANIEL BROOKS
Intriguing in a room this size.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah. Difficult day to make, but they did.
Speaker
It you have to.
CRAIG NORRIS
Look at that Rose Haven. I think it's season one, episode 5. Features a number of shots in here where they they they blacked out some of this and then they squeezed in a camera. I think behind where you are, Daniel. So they had like a yeah, it's amazing. Insane.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Right. Well, I think to get professional looking shots in a room this small. I mean, that's pretty.
CRAIG NORRIS
Good. Well, have a look at my YouTube channel at for my professional shots right now. Live with my fisheye goo GoPro. Because you can't get any. Better than that, it looks like a security camera.
DANIEL BROOKS
It does. I like the aesthetic.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I think another thing to point out, sorry to interject but. We're all fairly new at this. We we all just sort of went and tried out something with me being the exception I've been. I've been making movies for a very long time, but. The first six to seven years of that was me, not really doing it seriously and not really understanding the theory behind why things were done a certain way or how to how to get the best out of the equipment I had. So it's only been in the last two or three years that I've actually understood. How to get those shots and how to how to make something look pretty on screen?
CRAIG NORRIS
So Edward, can I ask you then? This doesn't lead to question. I've written down. How did you approach the cinematography and visual styles for Jeffs? Human? What were some of the influences you had? When you were saying inspirations for.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I'm going to be honest, Craig. Amongst friends and and the. Listen, is there all 1,000,000 millions of viewers, millions of viewers? I'm sure sorry, Craig. So.
DANIEL BROOKS
Double digits of listeners digits.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
As as of. Making just humans, I was still practising so the so I didn't really have too much inspiration for shots, so I was just. Trying to get my head around the whole thing. There there are some. Shots in in the movie that are a bit questionable.
CRAIG NORRIS
In terms of.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Composition and where I shot them from and lighting and. Blocking and all sorts of stuff like that. However the. Towards the end or towards the middle.
DANIEL BROOKS
Sit more towards the middle.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah, somewhere along. The way actually it it all started clicking.
CRAIG NORRIS
For me, right?
EDWARD WILLIAMS
So in this. To be there are going to be some questionable shots. However, the vast majority of them I'm proud of and and there are some shots in there that I that I still look at and go. Wow, how did I do that? You know, cause I I I I did not expect to produce. Anything nearly as good as what we've produced.
CRAIG NORRIS
Ohh that's great it's. Great to come out that other side.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Oh, it's it's fantastic.
DANIEL BROOKS
Just just the step up cinematography wise between our last project and this one is quite quite. Gracefully massive, I would say in the despondency which you were also in.
CRAIG NORRIS
The last project being the smallest fee, yes. I am pretty famous. Yeah. If you hadn't realised Craig. No. That's doctor Craig. Dr.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Isn't it? Yes, yeah, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Let's get the branding. That's right. Despondency. Yeah. And we'll get around to that. Yes, I I do want to touch on that at the end, but a question. Then maybe for. You all is. How did you find collaborating together, communicating with each other and the rest of the crew? Each day because it's. Spread over a couple of weekends.
DANIEL BROOKS
So was it 9 days? Yeah.
EILIDH DIREEN
4 1/2 weekends.
DANIEL BROOKS
Four, half. Yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
How did you find? The collaboration communicating between each other, saying it up. I mean a lot. Of that would be fully on your.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yeah, that's mostly my job. So I sort of would describe my role in this particular.
CRAIG NORRIS
Shoulders. It's managing.
DANIEL BROOKS
Arrangement and in this project as a conduit of information. So I will translate whatever creative energy comes out of here. And and I hear you. You mean by you?
CRAIG NORRIS
The divine.
DANIEL BROOKS
Ohh of course from you. Yes, of course.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
This is radio, remember.
DANIEL BROOKS
It is radio. It was streaming.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Only some.
CRAIG NORRIS
It's multimedia.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yeah. So I would take the creative energy that would be swirling from Eileen's brain translated into something that he can. Understand and.
CRAIG NORRIS
The cinematographer.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
He he being me.
DANIEL BROOKS
The cinematographer? Yes and. And instruct him as into in. Instruct him. So that he knows. What he's doing?
CRAIG NORRIS
In a polite way that you. Can tone down all the swearing. You would never. I know. I'm sorry.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Well, I I think a a simplified version of that is either will come up with the information Daniel will interpret it and then. I will execute it.
CRAIG NORRIS
Is there an example of that?
EILIDH DIREEN
Well, there were many times. When cause cause I don't have a. Very visual imagination, so I would have the idea of the the vibe of the scene we were putting together. I'm trying to think of a good example of the scene, the barrel. Yeah, sure. So you know, there's a scene where we're having a barrel at the uni and all, like the only thing that mattered to me were that people are in it. It's a bit awkward and the main character is having a conversation with one person and that that was all I had to go on. And so I'd say to Daniel. Ohh, we're doing this shot of the barrel scene. It's probably got to be like a mid to wide shot cause it's gotta fit a lot of people in it. I'm thinking we do it in this corner of the school that we're shooting at. That's all I've got. And then Daniel would visualise an actual shot in his head, like he'd go. OK, this specific part of the building would look good. Let's put the people here, here and here and then. You would say that to Teddy, Teddy would put the camera in roughly the right spot. Daniel would put the people in the right place and then Teddy would go alright. Can you, you know, can Soren take a step to the left, or can Brandon come forward or whatever until it looked good?
CRAIG NORRIS
Because there is a bit of a myth, I think about the director being the Beal and Endal that that it the director is micromanaging everything.
EILIDH DIREEN
Have to have made so many movies to get to that point.
CRAIG NORRIS
So instead surrounding. Yourself by talented people that each can do their job well or well enough. Means, yeah, the the director doesn't need to basically have and do the whole film in there. Head down to the minutiae. You can just see just broadly. Like this shot to have this, and then Daniel knows what he's doing and tells it to. Edward, who knows what he's doing. And and and so. Did you think that? Minds like like. Were you surprised at the end of the day you're seeing how the shots? Were coming together.
EILIDH DIREEN
There were lots of really delightful surprises, like some some of Teddy's shots were really beautiful. I was probably like initially. Like dismayed by, I guess, how little actually fits into the eye of a camera, if that makes sense. Like how little you can actually squeeze into a shot unless you're shooting from like, 100 metres away. Yeah. And using like a powerful lens. And so there were times. And I'd say to Teddy. Ohh, can we can we? Yeah, a shot with this much stuff in it. And he'd say, no, we can't do that. And I'd be like. Why have my eyes can see it? Why can't the? Camera see it. But aside, aside from some like learning curves like that, I. Was really really. Happy and a lot of the time, like pleasantly surprised by what happened on the screen.
Speaker
I agree with that. I would.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Look, I've grown up around cameras, so. I view the world as a camera, so I I I mean I'll actually be walking around the street and going ohh getting a shot with my camera.
EILIDH DIREEN
Walking camera.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
That's not here from that Street Corner pointed that way would look good.
CRAIG NORRIS
Because this location would be tricky to. Yes, yes. Cramped. Studio what it does give, I guess, is that authenticity of being a sports station. But yeah, the the difference would be translating. As you're saying, I like in my eyes. I see it all, but in terms of bringing in a quality studio level camera or anything trying to capture that in a way that then works on screen, yeah.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Because don't forget, you'd have to put. A bunch of lights in you. Or or or use two or three lights really well, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Did you have the lightings coming down, which means we're?
EDWARD WILLIAMS
All getting shadows. Yeah. And then you'd have to have some sort of feel. Like. Yes, I know some technical words because.
EILIDH DIREEN
And I remember those from first year films.
Speaker
Oh, OK.
CRAIG NORRIS
Because my hidden plan here is to get Edward to tell me how I can make. My movie in.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Here. No. OK, let's do it.
Speaker 1
Oh yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Well, actually they're just on that. They do want to talk about the idea of how you have to compromise creative vision to fit within all of the pressures that you have in terms of budgets. And yes, to trying to find a location that's going to work, I mean, what was that struggle like as you were trying to get that creative vision? To to work with on all the constraints of money and location times.
EILIDH DIREEN
Well, there's compromises during filming and then compromises in post production as well. In filming, for example. Because so many of the scenes in just humans were based on real events or they were based on, like, really strong ideas, I had about what an interaction might look like. I would have my dream performance in my mind and but the actors that I was choosing were just people that I know. Like friends and family and friends or friends of family and family or friends of friends. And yeah, I I had to cast people. People sometimes, according to vibe and sometimes just according to who is physically available on this day, and I'm all the acting, was amazing. Like, that's a whole nother tangent. We can go on normal people, not trained actors are really excellent at acting. Depending on what you ask them to do. However, there would be times.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yeah, definitely.
EILIDH DIREEN
And I would just be trying to say to so and so can you do this and can you make it sound like this and they just, they just would. Like perform it in their own interpretation and it was different and I was like, alright, well, that's what. It looks like now.
CRAIG NORRIS
Because you hear these stories. Of like George Lucas directing the Stanley Kubrick? Maybe where George Lucas will just like, give no direction. No, you're kind of being very kind of like, well, you know, he he just says these words.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Right. It's like probably that's right, right.
CRAIG NORRIS
Stanley Cooper, you hear these stories like they'll get up to. Like take 100 or 200.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
127 takes is the.
EILIDH DIREEN
Record. Wow, I was dying after 7.
CRAIG NORRIS
Oh, my God. Yeah. And and.
DANIEL BROOKS
Or eight, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Were the what were some of the takes. Like, I mean, seven or eight was pretty much as.
DANIEL BROOKS
Much as you felt comfortable, longest was about 8:00 here.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah, and and that kind of actually fits in with the theme of compromise on set. So like 11 compromise is what, what are the actors actually gonna be able to do for you? Another is environmental constraints. For example, we filmed two days at primary school to do all our classroom scenes, and on the first day they. He didn't tell us. Or maybe like, actually. No, they did tell me. And I just didn't. Think that it would be an issue, but there was a dancing class going on in the gym next door and so we had all this like, sound like all this noise from the room next door while we were trying to film our classroom scenes and.
CRAIG NORRIS
Oh wow.
EILIDH DIREEN
Simon, our sound recorder and editor, was a wizard and managed to get us some musical audio, but it was very stressful during filming it sounded like. Crap. And sometimes they'll be wind or weather or.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
The solution? Whatever. Yeah, the solution to a lot. Of that background noise. At one stage he actually went outside so that the the the wall of the building would block off the sound from the other room. Yeah, yeah.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah, and just pointed the shotgun mic through the open door or window.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah. Yeah. So, so it would block out a.
EILIDH DIREEN
Whatever it was.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Lot of the sound coming from the from the other room.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah, rather than being kind of in. In the room.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yes, yes, the two, no. The three scenes that all had got up to six or seven or eight.
DANIEL BROOKS
And being able to hear things next door.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah. Wow.
EILIDH DIREEN
Pics were all done in uncontrolled areas, so one was at a bus stop and there was a lot of traffic at the bus stop and cars were driving through our shot and we had. To keep starting again.
CRAIG NORRIS
You saying this last night? You saying like you chose a day and? Time and location you thought would be.
EILIDH DIREEN
I chose the Sunday morning in the Claremont. I didn't think there'd be that many cars driving up that random St.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah, and guess. What, whilst we were setting up nothing, nothing, nothing. So it took about half an hour for us to set it up and and decide what we're doing and where we're shooting from. And then the moment we call action or the moment. Million cars and not and sustained traffic.
DANIEL BROOKS
To to the point where I ended up deciding to swap where we were filming from and it was still still a problem.
EILIDH DIREEN
And it's. Issue that was one another was in a cafe that is owned by some friends of mine and we need to do some cafe scenes, but it was still like they didn't close the cafe for us, so there were still customers. There was noise. There were cleaners running around that. We were right across the hall from the bathroom, so people making noise as they went to go and use the bathroom, we got 7 or 8 and it was really complicated. Dialogue and poor Dan and Mark did such a good job. They were our featured extras in that scene and. They just they've got this most bizarre dialogue to say and they kept, you know, they it took them a couple of goes to get all the. Lines out. Hmm. And that was an interruption. Yeah, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
It's difficult to. Keep it fresh, right? I mean it, it sounds.
DANIEL BROOKS
Rehearsed. Exactly. Yeah, you're.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah. And the third, a third I I I mention all of these cause they're all kind of funny. But the third one was a scene that we did outside at the school.
CRAIG NORRIS
Not careful, yeah.
EILIDH DIREEN
So it was like Societies day at the university and we had all these trestle tables set up and they had tablecloths. It was very windy, the tablecloths kept flapping. Around everywhere we had to get our lighting. Person Ella and one of our actors, my cousin Maya, to lie on the ground and hold the tablecloths so that they wouldn't. The corners wouldn't flap up and disrupt the shot. There was birds on.
CRAIG NORRIS
And then we're just off camera.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't see anything. And now this scene that we recorded was a very short conversation in the script. It was 3, maybe 4, very brief lines of dialogue. It was.
Speaker
OK.
EILIDH DIREEN
So you guys keep bees? Yep. How much to join? 10 bucks. That was the conversation in the script. I won't spoil what actually happens, but the actors on the day decided to ad Lib an entire conversation. It was very funny. And they kept cracking themselves up. They would they they would get 2 words. And start just giggling and and and they were losing it. And we were like guys, like, come on. Come on. You can. You can do it, but it took them like 8 takes. I think to get the lines out. And keep a straight face. But it was worth.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
But it was.
DANIEL BROOKS
Worth it? Absolutely.
Speaker
It it was the.
DANIEL BROOKS
Worth absolutely right it is.
EILIDH DIREEN
Funniest. Funniest scene. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was.
DANIEL BROOKS
Potentially one of the most iconic pieces of the film.
CRAIG NORRIS
Wow. Yeah. So that all comes together finally. Were there any like you were saying with that? Road scene. You needed to really were there any? Shots you had. To give up on or were you able to? Salvage them all. I actually don't think.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I don't think so, no.
DANIEL BROOKS
We did this.
EILIDH DIREEN
I think we got all of that shot.
DANIEL BROOKS
Time, but we were.
EILIDH DIREEN
There were some. We decided that we. Didn't need on the day. Yeah, we yeah.
DANIEL BROOKS
That you always have links.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
See, we went in with an attitude of. If if we have the choice between doing it the right way or the lazy way we do it. The right way?
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah. You want that? Yes. You want to.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yeah, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Develop that skill. As well, you want to. Push yourself.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah. So if if there was a shot that. Was not quite. Right. It would. We'd we'd spend a few minutes actually discussing what was wrong with it. Yeah, and usually it meant. Someone had to get some big spool to wheel across to stand on to get a piece of paper and move it down about 5 centimetres. And yeah, you know that. That whole taking two minutes just to do just to move a piece of paper down a little bit, but it fixed the shot.
DANIEL BROOKS
Hmm, but thankfully, we were never, ever pressed for time. We were very good schedule.
EILIDH DIREEN
Ohh, we were on a couple. Of occasions, but we did very well.
DANIEL BROOKS
But not, not not in ways that were hyper stressful though.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I think it was. I think it was. One of the first days? Yeah, very hot day.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yeah, it was.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
A hot day in a very poorly insulated room towards the end. A few beverages had had had been had, so our so some of our hydration levels were down and we were tired. And we were a bit. Upset. We just wanted to get it over.
EILIDH DIREEN
Some of us.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
And done with.
Speaker 6
Were some of us some.
EILIDH DIREEN
Of us were having. A great time.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I I was upset and I just wanted to.
CRAIG NORRIS
Go. And what happened?
EDWARD WILLIAMS
We finished.
CRAIG NORRIS
It you pushed yourself.
DANIEL BROOKS
And he battled through his sadness.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah. And we are so grateful that he did.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
No, no, no, no, that that wasn't. No, no, don't. No, no, it's it's fine.
CRAIG NORRIS
Thank you. So to change tax slightly, if after watching this people are thinking what the media tourism schedule should be, what are some of the locations that you filmed in? What are some of the locations that are gonna become tourist sensations after this? Like people are going to? Go. Oh, that shot I. Want to go there and? Check that out. What? What are some locations you feel?
DANIEL BROOKS
Well, one of.
EILIDH DIREEN
The probably one of the nicest looking shots in the movie and and one that we've used for a lot of promo, which is the shot of the two main characters by this. By the sea, basically with a little campfire was done at this random beach in Dover that I don't don't.
DANIEL BROOKS
The specific location of which I. Would like to remain secret.
EILIDH DIREEN
Ohh yes sorry this. Don't come to our special beach and.
DANIEL BROOKS
Don't come to this place. And it's ours.
EILIDH DIREEN
Sorry and like what? What I can't even. Think of anything in that.
Speaker
It's good fishing.
CRAIG NORRIS
Spot it's got like.
EILIDH DIREEN
It's just, it's just our special beach crate.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
You're asking too many questions.
CRAIG NORRIS
But see now.
Speaker 6
You you send it as a secret.
Speaker
You see.
DANIEL BROOKS
What I'm trying to do is engage people in to to try and find the place themselves.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah, that's true. Take photos and see if it. Matches up with the shot.
DANIEL BROOKS
I know those are Google Maps whizzers out there I can. Now find it.
CRAIG NORRIS
That's true. Yeah, there are those people that amazingly get it within a few kind of screenshots.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I I don't think there. Are actually too many places really because because. There there are.
EILIDH DIREEN
We tried to keep them all. Like not anonymous, but generic, if that makes sense.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yes. So locals recognise maybe. Yeah.
DANIEL BROOKS
In some cases, yes, definitely.
EILIDH DIREEN
Launceston actually. Yeah, this movie's.
CRAIG NORRIS
Right little Launceston.
EILIDH DIREEN
Gonna be like a full like tourist like trailer for the city of Launceston. Great because of a 3 minute montage towards the very end.
DANIEL BROOKS
Oh, that's definitely could be, yeah.
EILIDH DIREEN
Of the movie. Which? One of the prettiest things I've ever seen right when you.
DANIEL BROOKS
Beautiful film.
CRAIG NORRIS
Were out there doing Launceston tourist? Yes.
DANIEL BROOKS
The favour.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah, well, you know they they should thank me because.
EILIDH DIREEN
Once Upon a time, Teddy and Edward and Daniel decided to film a short film in Launceston. Hmm, and so they spent a day taking the bus out there, doing a bunch of shooting, taking the bus back home, and they made a short film. And I thought in my screenplay I would pay homage to that. So in the my 2 main characters decided to make a movie and they decide to go to Launceston and they spend a day shooting in Launceston and we made a montage of them doing that in Launceston.
CRAIG NORRIS
Hmm, it came difficult in the editing stage. What do you do with people in the background? And you were mentioning this last night that that one of the headaches can be random strangers suddenly.
EILIDH DIREEN
That's a great example of compromising.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yeah. So you've just gotta be really careful while you're doing it. And if they? Yeah.
Speaker
Because it's.
CRAIG NORRIS
Illegal like you. Can't put someone if they're not given consent so.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yes, concerns legal concerns.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
My understanding is that it's technically not legal. Sorry, technically not illegal. However, if someone then goes up and says, please stop showing this, then you have to stop showing it and you have to. You have to pull it from everything. Like you cannot re.
CRAIG NORRIS
Edit. Yeah, well, we.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
You could probably re edit it.
DANIEL BROOKS
But but by the time that's become a thing, it's too.
CRAIG NORRIS
That will take.
DANIEL BROOKS
Time it takes time.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
And and and.
CRAIG NORRIS
It's the momentum of releasing it.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
In that situation. For me it's it's not so much a legal issue, it's more of a moral issue. Yeah, I I I sort of. Yeah, I've.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah, I agree.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
As though people have a right to kind.
EILIDH DIREEN
Not be randomly in someone's new year.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah. Yeah. Mind you, I have. I have come up with a potential solution to that for future. You just have release forms handy. Yeah. And you? Know 50 bucks and say here sign this release form. Here's 50 bucks. Yeah.
DANIEL BROOKS
That which is a much better alternative than having to be ultra careful all the time and. Compromising on your vision.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Hypothetically, 50 bucks. I'll look into the legality of.
Speaker 6
That, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yeah, consent form could be, yeah.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Quite the yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
What about 10 minutes left? What kind of the skills? Because you were talking about this being a kind of learning curve. So now that it's completed and around the corner will be premiered? What are some of the skills? You think you've come away with how do you? Think you've developed to tackle future projects?
EILIDH DIREEN
For me, probably like a lot of event management team type. Yeah. Skills, just. Terms of you know if the scene needed to be in a pub, then you'd had to book a venue and you had to talk to the people. You had to get your actors there. You got to get. Your equipment there, you got your props. There lots of. Lots of organisational skills, but also I've never directed anything before and never directed people before and that's like. I believe I did a good job.
CRAIG NORRIS
Daniel Edward.
DANIEL BROOKS
For me, I think. It's it was realising that I'm actually pretty good at. What is blocking? So it's. It's putting things in the scene to interact with each other at specific moments and then visualising how it's all going to move. Around and basically act.
EILIDH DIREEN
Right, this movement.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yeah, technically, typically actors and props.
CRAIG NORRIS
So you have an actor walking over the subway to pick something up. Yeah, and in your head you've thought about how that it's very.
DANIEL BROOKS
How that interacts with everything else in the scene and.
EILIDH DIREEN
Difficult to make that look natural on camera, turns out.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah. And you can also blocking refers to. Camera movements as well.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yes, and camera.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I I think a way to make it look natural is not to have people walk in off the wings of the of the shot cause it.
DANIEL BROOKS
Right. Because then it looks like theatre.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
It looks like someone's just walked in from stage, right. Gone. Hello. I am here. Yeah. Suddenly. Yeah.
DANIEL BROOKS
And I think that for all, there's that, but it's also more I'm sort of it's more confidence in organising what's happening, because I've done it in the past as well as directed at the same time. And this was a good opportunity just to mostly focus on that on set on set management.
EILIDH DIREEN
Stuff which was good cause if I just say to Daniel, can we please have a party scene? Daniel would have to tell people where to stand. What sort of hand gestures to be doing if people were move like walking in and out of the shot, he'd tell them when and. Where to do that? I was just happy with people at the.
CRAIG NORRIS
Body. So I have dates and times. For where this. Is coming up next, so we'll talk about that and then future projects, so dates and times. So we've got. Saturday 19th of August, Sunday, 20th of August and Monday 24th. So three nights back to back. The first two are at the.
DANIEL BROOKS
Get up in a row.
CRAIG NORRIS
Winner community all. Yeah. And the last one is at the Don Bosco Creative Arts Centre at the Glenorchy GYC campus. GYC is.
EILIDH DIREEN
Oh yeah. Yes. So if you're familiar with Guildford Young College, that's their performing arts centre of Mill Street, England, Archie.
DANIEL BROOKS
Good with young.
CRAIG NORRIS
And what they did the 1st 2:00 because I'm trying to say which one I'm going to play this last night.
EILIDH DIREEN
You're not coming. To all three.
CRAIG NORRIS
Well, I'm going to try to collect more other. Collecting things I can get.
EILIDH DIREEN
It could be.
CRAIG NORRIS
Ohh anyway the 1st 2:00. Right is a bit more of a DIY job where you've got like you've got a, you've got your own screen that you're setting up.
DANIEL BROOKS
Yeah, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
Speakers. Yeah, more can go wrong, which makes me feel like that could be the more exciting one to be part of. Like stories will come out of that one. Everything will go right though.
DANIEL BROOKS
Absolutely, yeah.
EILIDH DIREEN
Well, yeah.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
And we did film another project there and it's sort of where I am and it's kind of the central sort of taruna is the central hub for for. Production company, if you could call. It that?
EILIDH DIREEN
A little bit cosy. Yeah, it's very. It's in the the skin keeping. With the aesthetic of the film, yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
So kuzia venue taruna for anyone looking for that, and the last the the third night, then Glenorchy. What's the vibe there? That's a more splashing. Production, right, that's.
EILIDH DIREEN
Guilford young. Has a really nice performing arts centre. It's got its own inbuilt AV system. There'll be technicians on hand to help us run the thing. It'll it'll be. It'll be nice to. Be fancy, it'll be like the gold. Class experience.
CRAIG NORRIS
Yes, gold class so.
EILIDH DIREEN
We will not be selling fancy food or champagne though.
CRAIG NORRIS
But you will feel nasty taken. Care of, I guess with the audios visuals, seats.
EILIDH DIREEN
It'll it'll be. It'll be. Yeah. Nice. Comfy.
CRAIG NORRIS
Where can people go to find out more about?
EILIDH DIREEN
That best place would be to go on to trybooking.com and just look up just humans screen.
CRAIG NORRIS
So that's Tri booking or TRYTRY is literally at try booking and try booking this try booking?
EILIDH DIREEN
GR. Look up just humans film screening. You should come up with three separate events, one for each screening, because that's just what dry booking made me do. You can also we've got posters up around the place with QR codes that you can use to book tickets, or you can just remember these details and rock. Up on the day and.
CRAIG NORRIS
Ohh you're selling.
EILIDH DIREEN
They will. Tickets. Yeah, they'll be door. Sales as well, but we wanted to try and.
CRAIG NORRIS
What time is?
DANIEL BROOKS
It 7:00 PM.
CRAIG NORRIS
7:00 PM alright, so yeah, rock up to the Tarina community hall Saturday 19th or Sunday 20th at just before 7:00 PM. Two moving.
EILIDH DIREEN
Yeah, yeah, it might start closer to 7/15/15.
CRAIG NORRIS
Or head over to the Creative Arts Centre Glenorchy. Do you I? See was that.
DANIEL BROOKS
Give young college from college.
CRAIG NORRIS
Campus again 7:00 PM yeah.
EILIDH DIREEN
And for the benefit of your listeners, Craig, maybe you could put some of. These details, yeah, they will be.
CRAIG NORRIS
Available on show notes that you can get to via the podcast YouTube Twitch sites as well as yeah, my Facebook page, my Instagram page.
EILIDH DIREEN
And my friends, can you please? Yeah.
CRAIG NORRIS
My tiktok page, all the pages. So check that out now future projects any teases. I know you mentioned that other project despondency got like can I put you on the spot to get a date for that.
DANIEL BROOKS
So yes. On the spot it is tentatively late September.
CRAIG NORRIS
Late September, you heard it here. First, people will be much late September despondency, starring, not me, but I am in there in the background.
Speaker
Some other people.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yeah. So that one's a project that Daniel and I worked on a very different flavour of project and we made it when when we were going through a very different stage in life. So our attitude towards filmmaking has evolved a lot since then. We're probably more open to ideas, and we're generally more relaxed. Yeah, around. The filmmaking process.
CRAIG NORRIS
But you're still open to. Get it finished and wrapped up. For it and they're.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Yes. Yeah, yes. Ohh yeah. And and you know.
DANIEL BROOKS
Singing out so.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
It it is a. Very for, for me at least a very. Cathartic story and a very.
DANIEL BROOKS
And it does say a lot. Yeah. And it does have a lot of things in it that you, if you think. About the Moy. Ohh this is a very nice film.
CRAIG NORRIS
Well, we'll have to get you back in to to debrief from that. I only Daniel Edward. It's been wonderful having you on media mothership. Any final words? Words is kind of like what advice?
EILIDH DIREEN
Please come and watch our. It's just really funny. It's got really beautiful music.
DANIEL BROOKS
I would advise you do that because it's good, yeah.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
I'm gonna give you some actual advice.
CRAIG NORRIS
That's very serious. Yes, Edward.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Don't. Don't take the filmmaking process so seriously like like, have respect for it and have respect for the people you're working with. But if you're so serious that you that you.
DANIEL BROOKS
Lose sight of enjoying what you're doing.
EDWARD WILLIAMS
Then you you end up creating a a bitter twisted version of what you. Should have.
EILIDH DIREEN
Made those shooting days were some of the funnest days ever, and they wouldn't have been if we'd been stressed and grumpy the whole time.
DANIEL BROOKS
Very fun.
CRAIG NORRIS
A wonderful way to end this interview. Thank you. How much I, Lee, Daniel and Edward keep listening. It's radio. 99.3 FM will have Kpop unlimited around the corner as has been media mothership for another week.
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